Norton Commando Wiring Diagram + Alton Electric Start Kit

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Alton Electric Start kit

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These are superb quality, well-engineered and made in France.

They allow you to keep the triplex primary chain and the factory standard ‘ham can’ air filter.

They come with their own bespoke alternator stator and rotor as part of the kit.

And while it is ‘only’ single phase, and can quite easily work with the original zener diode-based charging system, it is worth noting that Alton recommend that you fit a PODtronics combined regulator/rectifier instead.

The Alton alternator puts out around 90 watts at ‘cruising speed’ which is plenty – it is more-or-less the equivalent of the original RM21.

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Battery Connection

As you read through this article, and start to look at the diagrams, be sure to notice that there is only one connection to the battery positive – this is the heavy 6-gauge cable that goes to the primary case for the Alton Electric start.

It is important not to take any other connection to the battery on this side, as if for any reason you have disconnected the heavy gauge cable (maybe you are doing some maintenance work on the primary), and you inadvertently touch the starter button, you can quite easily pull 200 amps of unfused power through the other cables in the wiring harness that are rated at 20 amps.

The wires simply melt!

NVT had the same problem with the Triumph T160 back in the day.

They sent a Service Bulletin out to the dealers and distributors instructing them to cut the light gauge wire from the battery, leaving only the heavy one. The same thing should be done on the MK3 Commando too (there are a lot of commonalities with the electrical system on the MK3 Commando and the T160 Triumph, as they were under the same ownership by that point)

All of the MK3 diagrams here on my site have that cable deleted for this very reason.

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You often see MK3’s with this cable cut. I think it is common for a new owner of a bike to wrongly reinstate this wire when they open the side cover for the first time and discover that the wire has been cut. Wrong – it’s been cut for a very good reason!!!

Install Guide

The Alton kit comes with a very well written installation guide, which you can access here:

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Diagrams

There are lots of circuit diagrams in the installation guide, which hand hold you through adding the Electric Starter kit to your bike – this is really helpful and shows superb attention to detail from the Alton guys – so kudos to them!

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Another point worthy of mention is the positive feed from the battery – I mentioned it before, and I’ll say it again – there should be one heavy gauge cable from the battery positive to the back of the Alton primary case and nothing else.

The harness (i.e., the rest of the bike) receives it’s positive feed from the ring terminal on the engine side of the head steady.

The Alton diagrams suggest that the battery should have an additional lighter gauge positive feed. This is not correct.

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Battery

Alton advise in their instruction manual that you should uprate the battery.

I have had good experience with Motobatt and would certainly be pleased to recommend the MBTX20UHD

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This is a great choice – I really like the Motobatt AGM batteries, they seem to get through a winter layup with no problems at all.

No need to leave these on a tender over the winter, just a charge the night before your first springtime ride of the year, and you are good to go!

AGM is a sealed battery, so no worries about venting or spillage.

They are not overly expensive, and their Cold Cranking ability is good, making them a nice upgrade for electric start bikes!

Wiring Diagram

1971 (three wires to the master switch) PNG 3066×1841

This is available as a PDF too – it can be downloaded here.

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1972 onwards (four wires to the master switch) PNG 3066×1841

This is available as a PDF too – it can be downloaded here.

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NOTE:

A couple of points about the way these diagrams have been drawn:

  1. Where the same colour wire goes in to and out of a single connector, that connector has usually been omitted from the drawing.
    It’s obvious on the bike, is easy to spot and easy to troubleshoot.
    Leaving them off the diagrams makes them a LOT easier to read, and considerably less cluttered.
  2. Wherever the earth or ground side of a component goes back to the battery, the drawing shows a red earth symbol:
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    In reality, this could be connected either to a red wire in the bike’s wiring harness (loom) OR it could be attached to the frame or engine of the bike.

    I have shown the red earth symbol each time in order to massively simplify the diagram, and make it a lot easier to understand for everyone.

    I have also coloured them red as a gentle reminder that these bikes are wired positive earth!

Warning Light Assimilators

It is important to note that MOST aftermarket reg/rec manufacturers do not support either the pre-MK3 Lucas 3AW silver can warning light assimilator OR the MK3 one.

Boyer Bransden are very explicit in their instructions for the Power Bow – they have even made an alternative Power Box model that includes a charge warning light.

Other manufacturers (PODtronics, SPARX and the Tri-Spark MOSFET units) either mention it in their smallprint/FAQs or neglect to mention it at all.

As such, I would recommend NOT using the original assimilator and consider your alternatives.

You could replace your assimilator with a solid state equivalent like the CoolCat Express (warning: you have to buy positive SS3AW-P or negative SS3AW earth)

Alternatively, you could follow my recommendation and buy a Charge Warning Light instead.

A warning light assimilator tells you that the alternator stator is producing an AC output, whereas a Charge Warning Light tells you that the battery is charging, the reg/rec is working and it gives you much more useful information about performance of the charging system and the state of charge.

I personally recommend the Improving Classic Motorcycles “Standard” Charge Warning Light. This model wires in to the standard incandescent lamp, so it looks better than a modern LED. It matches all your other warning lamps, which is particularly important on the MK3 with it’s instrument ‘console’

The ‘brainbox’ is about the size of a postage stamp, and can easily live inside the headlight bucket or under the MK3 ‘console’

2 replies

  1. Hi, Grant.
    Great website and very useful. I am just rewiring a Norton Commando interstate 1972 and i have been using your guide, the machine has an Alton electric start and a Boyer ignition system. You state that only one wire to be connected to the positive terminal to the primary case , just wondering what people do with the red wire from the loom that used to connect there?
    Do i cut the ring connector off and tape it up leaving the red wires still connected to each other?

    • Hi Mark,

      Simply disconnect the ring terminal from the battery and tape it up with some insulation tape.

      It is important that the red cables are connected to each other for continuity of the positive feed from front to back of the bike.

      Cheers!

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